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Yogesh Kumar

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    Wrong enty exit and differences in Momentify Portfolio and RZone backtest
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @Prashant Shah
    Hello,
    Prashant sir,

    I got a call from Definedge and had a gmeet with Mr Rajesh, he patiently listened to my issues and understood what I was trying to convey,he took notes and working on this. Thanks to You for the reply. It helps a lot when issues are addressed properly, it gives us confidence and build trust. I admire Definedge a lot for the its uniqueness and great tools.
    Thanks & Regards


  • Wrong chart data on Zone (Web)
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts
    Hello, I observed again the chart of hind petro, but the issue is still here, the chart is still wrong and its been more than2 months that I brought to your notice.
    Pls understand, its not about a chart but data, that can impact our trading decision and can affect the backtesting results as well (there can be many charts, I just observed once, and hope its the only one). Hope you will do something regarding this. Tradepoint shows the correct price and chart but zone app chart n data is different, every time we can't check both apps for every chart.
    @Brijesh-Bhatia sir, pls look into this.
    I am attaching a screen shot for your reference again.
    Thanks & Regardshindpetro_tradepointsoftware.jpg hindpetro_Zoneapp.jpg


  • Wrong enty exit and differences in Momentify Portfolio and RZone backtest
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    I got a call regarding this but I am not satisfied, they say, in backtesting it takes the Eod data and there might be some difference, to which I replied " yes, some difference, but in backtesting, next month(2nd month) it shows 20 stocks after squaring off some stocks n gave entry to some new one, while executing the real portfolio through momentify, I was left with only 6-7 stocks in my real portfolio and as far as eod data is concerned , momentify also pick stocks as per last day ending price."
    So, I am bit confused and unfortunately can't rely on backtesting, it is good on paper, but in reality the story is completely different. The explanations I got , don't satisfy and encourage me to go further until they fix these issues. We are not putting only money, but investing our time and efforts. Thanks & Regards


  • Serious Issue in Backtest Position Sizing Logic – Inflated CAGR Results
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    I have also raised the concerns regarding backtesting and data's accuracy, moreover, momentify software picked 7-8 stocks but in backtesting for the same time duration, showed different result (20 stocks). Been a month raised this issue but still did not get any reply or resolution. Disappointed...


  • Wrong enty exit and differences in Momentify Portfolio and RZone backtest
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @Brijesh Bhatia Thank you Brijesh Sir,
    Regards,
    Yogesh Kumar


  • Wrong enty exit and differences in Momentify Portfolio and RZone backtest
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts @Prashant shah,
    its unfortunate and really disappointing that its been a month and there is not a single acknowledgment from Definedge Team.
    What should I do in order to get a reply and get it resolved.
    Pls advise.


  • Inconsistent Backtest Results
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @G-Heble Thanks. Yes. I understand, difficult to get conviction.


  • Wrong enty exit and differences in Momentify Portfolio and RZone backtest
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    Hello Definedge team,

    I made a portfolio and invested through Momentify (after doing backtesing for several days ) on 01-Sep-25, I got 17 shares as per scanner conditions and strategy (Allotted 1 lakh on 20 stocks, but got 17 as per stock selection criteria). On 1-Oct-25 , did rebalancing as per rules , the strategy squared off 14 stocks and gave entry to 3 new stocks, so I have total = 17 -14 +3 = 6 stocks on 31st-Oct-25. Now rebalancing date is on 01-Nov-25 (Saturday is off, will do on 03-Nov-25). I got a mail for rebalancing, I checked the basket so it is showing 3 outing stocks and 3 incoming as per strategy criteria. All is okay till here because we have to rely on Momentify and don't have to do the changes manually as advised by Mr Prashant ji and it's the core and important idea of investing through this method for long term.
    Now, out of curiosity and after reading some feedbacks of users about the wrong backtesting result and discrepancies. I ran the backtesting with same conditions of my real portfolio, same date i.e 01-sep25, it shows 17 stocks ( same result when I started), but next month on 1st-Oct-25, backtesting is showing entry of 4 stocks and exit of 1 stocks , so it makes 17-4+1 = 20 stocks for the month of October whereas in my real portfolio it made me exit 14 stocks and now I am holding only 6 stocks.
    Pls look into this, how can we trust the backtesting? what is the point of spending hours with a hope of investing in good strategy through platform? it is really a serious issue, if such issues persist, I am afraid that, users will consider other alternatives available in market.
    Hope to hear from you soon and you fix this issue asap.
    Attaching backtesting result and real holding for reference.
    sep.jpg oct.jpg real holding on 31st oct.png
    Thanks & Regards,


  • Inconsistent Backtest Results
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    I have also observed the difference between back testing and real portfolio through momentify. Will post with images.


  • Wrong chart data on Zone (Web)
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    @@Definedge-Experts no reply ?


  • Wrong chart data on Zone (Web)
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    Hello Definedge Team,

    Hope all the members are doing well.
    While looking at the charts, I have observed that in Rzone charts and data are not always correct, earlier also I have raised a query regarding discrepancy in Rzone data.

    Instrument - HindPetro, as per Zone chart, it is at all time high( CMP -446.3) closing basis, there is no resistance but same instrument on Trade point shows that there is a resistance the high is around 453.6
    (you can check it on any chart type, OHLC or P&F, I am attaching a PnF for reference). Pls look into this. Hindpetro_Zone.jpg Hindpetro_Tradepoint.jpg
    you have created a beautiful web platform (Zone) but such issues ruin the experience and we might end up taking the wrong trade if we don't recheck on other platforms and we can't do this every time. ( Trade point is showing the correct data and chart as always )
    Wish you all a great weekend !
    Thanks & Regards,


  • Momentify logo disappeared in Portfolio
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    Thanks !


  • Momentify logo disappeared in Portfolio
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    Hello Definedge Team,

    I invested in some stocks through momentify's strategy, earlier in my portfolio, I had a symbol (momentify's logo) with the stock name , so it was very easy to see and segregate the stocks. If momentify logo is there, I know , I am going to play for long time , and If logo is not there with the stock, it means that they are for short term or swing positions or as per other study, but now the logo is no more there with the stocks and it does not give a good experience while trading as its a big list ( 20 of momentify and other stocks for trading or investing as well). Pls look into this.
    suggestion - Pls provide a filter or drop down menu ( like to select the momentify stocks or other positions ). Pls think about it.

    Thanks & Regards


  • Wrong closing price showing on P&F Chart ( R Zone )
  • Y Yogesh Kumar

    Hello Definedge Team,

    Hope all the members are well ! I have some observation regarding the data, while checking some charts, I have seen that CMP or one can say Closing price is not always correct on Rzone app, Specially 0.15*3 - 1 minute chart.

    For example - Eicher Motors - on 15 sep 25 closing price is "6801"

    on Rzone 0.153 - 1 min, it shows - "6799" , on 0.253 - Daily , the price is correct - "6801"
    On Trade point - on both the time frame the price is correct "6801"

    You can check , Dr Reddy as well, there are so many charts.

    Both the platforms are excellent but I prefer Rzone and its frustrating to juggle from Rzone to Trade point.

    even when we scan data, sometimes, I find discrepancy in result data (rare but it happens), R zone scan result does not show the same result done on Tradepoint.

    Please look into this .
    Thanks & Regards

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