@Ravi Shinde I don't have the stats right now, but for sure it's not good. I'm experimenting with it to see whether the Intraday trading style suits my temperament or not. After practicing the setup for almost 2 and half months I have realized following things from my own experience.

1. Lower the TF, Higher the Whipsaw's.
2. Trading psychology plays a lot in short term trading. I have broken trading rules of position sizing, risk mgmt. etc. due to greed, to cover losses, revenge etc.
3. Profits booking is another thing, I struggled with. As during consolidation, risk: reward is not favorable. I have observed it's less than 1R.
4. With so many SL's hit, I lose confidence and struggled with trend riding and capturing trending moves as well, so probably a good trending move of 3R, I might have captured.
5. Mistaken, intraday trading is easier to mint money from market using Algo. It requires a good amount of time, energy & emotions.

Thanks for asking the questions, I'll get back to you with the actual trade's stats.

Positional Trade

Even I have requested for such option, as per my system, For Long Trades, Initial SL should be Minimum of (DBS & D-Smart WL Value)

@Aditya Saini

Type GOLDM in Seach Symbol, You'll find GOLDM Near month Future Expiry as GOLDM 04 Apr 2025 or GOLDM-I.

Screenshot attached for your reference.

@Aditya Saini Hi Aditya,

GoldM 4 Apr is near month expiry i.e GOLDM-I.

On P&F I'm using 10 SMA and Supertrend Indicator

MT Stands for Mini Top and MB stands for Mini Bottom

@Definedge

Kindly introduce Column to bifurcate orders which are meant for "Just Alerts" or "To Place Order" as well.

In a hindsight, trend looks smooth and easier to ride. My system has experienced many whipsaws during this trending move, time to fine tune the system so to reduce number of trades by limiting frequent exits.

@Prasiddh Shroff Hi, is there any such conditions available for Renko or any work around. I have given request to the team.

https://ncrtcin-my.sharepoint.com//g/personal/shobhit_acharya_ncrtc_in/EQGKbdVtuphIlOXWOGSZ5PYB8vHFS2wdpYp_glbs_SFwBw?e=mSWIeu

@Definedge

Kindly give an option to untick Disparity & Pullback Symbol on Renko Charts. Support Ticket Raised.

@Definedge

P&L Calendar - F&O & Commodity Trades not getting updated by EOD. Ticket Raised

@ASHISH-MAURYA You can use Support & Resistance Tool from Tool bar, screenshot attached for your ready reference.

Definedge,

Support Ticket ID #CS063464

Auto Trade Engine Doesn't stop despite fulfilling conditions of Max. Trades Conditions defined at the strategy levels. All requested file already shared thru email.

51 Trades Executed against Max. defined limit of 20 Trades.

Definedge,

Support Ticket ID #CS063453

May Kindly Explore the possibility of Inserting a column showing Strategy Wise Open Positions or option to customize the Columns.

Definedge Team,

Support Ticket Raised #CS063436.

Dashboard of Raised Ticket from particular email address, may please be provided with status updates (Open, Close, WIP etc.)

Checking individual ticket number is cumbersome.

@Definedge

@Definedge Team,

Pl. Note issue emailed with a Support code #CS063320. Sharing here for my reference.

Auto Trade Engine :- Qualified Trades in Ultrascanner but not getting executed thru Auto Trade Engine.

ATE EQT LONG Strategy ID

ATE EQT SHORT Strategy ID

ATE CMD LONG Strategy ID

ATE CMD SHORT Strategy ID

Renko EQT Long
Entry :- D-Smart Crossover
Exit :- D-Smart 28 WL or 1% Target

Renko EQT Short
Entry :- D-Smart Crossover
Exit :- D-Smart 28 WL or 1% Target

@Definedge Team,

Pl. Note issue emailed with a Support code #CS063309. Sharing here for my reference.

Kindly refer to the below attached screenshot highlighting Realized Loss from the GoldM-I & SilverM-I Trades.

Now refer to the P&L calculation of same trades under Positions in R-Zone.

Why is there a change mismatch in P&L calculation?

@Definedge Team,

Pl. Note issue emailed with a Support code #CS063293. Sharing here for my reference.

Today around 07:00 P.M Trade Entry Conditions triggered as shown in Ultra scanner results. However, trade doesn't get triggered thru Auto Trade Engine.

Kindly look into it.

P&F CNC Long System Conditions: -

*** Entry:- P&F 0.15 1-min Price above D-Smart 6, DTB, With less then 6 Box Risk
Exit :- DBS
Universe :- Fusion Matrix output on default Box Sizes and Filtered by Total Performance above Zero for Bullish**

P&F ITD Long System Conditions: -

*** Entry:- P&F 0.15 1-min Price above D-Smart 6, DTB, With less then 6 Box Risk
Exit :- DBS or Time Stop 3:00 P.M
Universe :- Fusion Matrix output on default Box Sizes and Filtered by Total Performance above Zero for Bullish**

P&F ITD Long System Conditions: -

*** Entry:- P&F 0.15 1-min Price above D-Smart 6, DTB, With less then 6 Box Risk
Exit :- DBS
Universe :- FAST Bullish**

P&F ITD Long System Conditions: -

*** Entry:- P&F 0.15 1-min Price above D-Smart 6, DTB, With less then 6 Box Risk
Exit :- DBS or Time Stop 03:00 P.M or 1% Target
Universe :- FAST Bullish**

Renko Intraday Systems Short Conditions: -

*** Entry :- Renko 0.15 1-min D-Smart 10 or 20 Price Crossover or One Back below D- Smart 10
Exit :- Above D-Smart 28
Universe :- FAST Bearish**

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• Portfolio Simulator with Max. Open Positions 5

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• With 1% Target and Time Stop at 3:00 P.M

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• Portfolio Simulator with Max. Open Positions 5
  

*** Entry :- Renko 0.15 1-min D-Smart 10 or 20 Price Crossover or One Back below D- Smart 10
Exit :- Above D-Smart 28
Universe :- Fusion Matrix output on default Box Sizes and Filtered by Total Performance Below Zero for Bearish.***

• CNC

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• With Time Stop at 3:00 P.M

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@Anurag-Rathore Sir, Really Appreciate your efforts in jotting down issues pertains to Auto Trade Engine. Some of the issue reported to Definedge team and Support Ticket raised.

@Definedge Team,

Pl. Note issue emailed with a Support code #CS063068. Sharing here for my reference.

There are two entry conditions price crossing D-Smart 10 and Bullish One Back.
During live market Auto Trade Engine system se two trades execute honge ya single trade hoga?

System Conditions: -

Entry :- Renko 0.15 1-min D-Smart 10 or 20 Price Crossover or One Back above D-Smart 20
Exit :- Below D-Smart 40
Universe :- Fusion Matrix output on default Box Sizes and Filtered by Total Performance Above Zero for Bullish/Bearish.

Exit based on D-Smart 40 Trailing SL (CNC)

Exit with a Fixed Target of 1% (CNC)

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL (CNC)

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL (Intraday-3:00 P.M)

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL and 1% Target (Intraday-3:00 P.M)

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL (Intraday)-Run on FAST Stocks

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL (Intraday)-Run on FAST Bullish Stocks Universe

Portfolio Back testing Report with Max. Open Positions 5, results are better for lesser No of Positions.

Entry Improved using Trend Filter as D-Smart 28 & Exit based on D-Smart 28 Trailing SL & 1% Target (Intraday-3:00 P.M)-Run on FAST Bullish Stocks Universe

Portfolio Back testing Report with Max. Open Positions 5, results are better for lesser No of Positions.

Thanks @Nishant-Paul for sharing your experience. With my limited experience of back testing and actual trades, I feel automation can help in short term trading and having a fixed profit target helps to accumulate some profit cushion for losing streak of trades and slippages. The Odds of riding a trade on Intraday basis are on a lower side. I can't recommend as we are on the same journey of exploring & learning from our own experience.

@Nishant-Paul Glad you found it useful. So, How do you trade intraday FAST manually? It would be great, If you can share your trade performance like win ratio, avg. time in a trade, avg. Risk: Reward, no. of trades, max. open positions etc.

Algo: - Long Commodity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition

Algo: - Short Commodity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition
No Trades Triggered

Algo: - Short Equity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition run on Intraday Momentum Investing Group

Algo: - Long Equity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition run on Intraday Momentum Investing Group

Algo: - Long Equity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition run on FAST Dynamic Group

Algo: - Short Equity Trades with 1% Trailing SL Condition run on FAST Dynamic Group

@Definedge Team,

As discussed and reported over call 3 days ago.

Following issues with Auto Engine still continues. Pl. Note issue emailed with a Support code #CS063010.

1. Unrealized Profits column for MCX trades are not getting updated.
2. Stop Loss amount for the Strategy should be based on unrealized profits rather then realized profits, few days back I took trade of copper, and it went below 10K and still auto trade not squared off the trade and stopped the strategy.

Algo Trades-Intraday Momentum Trading Scanner Group with PDHL Filtering Criteria.
Hypothesis that, momentum of previous day will continue today, seems not working out.

Only two Yesterday's Gainer continues to be Today's Top Gainer

None of Yesterday's Top Looser's continues to be Today's Top Looser's

Algo Trades-FAST Strategy 06-Feb-25

Long Equity Trades

Short Equity Trades

Long Commodity Trades

Short Commodity Trades

Algo Trades-FAST Strategy 05-Feb-25

@Definedge Team

Support ticket is autogenerated, but the customer doesn't receive status update on the ticket and often there is no follow up on the issue.

Customer has to follow up numerous times with the team to check the status. I think support ticket shouldn't be closed unless feedback loop is closed.

Thanks & Regards,
Shobhit Achaya

@Definedge Team,

Following conditions criteria is required.

For Long Trades:- Maximum Value of (Double Bottom Sell , D-Smart WL)
For Short Trades:- Minimum Value of (Double Top Buy , D-Smart WL)

May I request you to raise a support ticket along with forwarding requirement to the concerned team.

@Definedge Team

Looking forward following features

1. Position sizing based on Non-Martingale method.

2. If such button could be introduced for MCX Segment as well.

Jan-25 Commodity Strategy Outcome!!!

Key Learnings

1. Psychology-Mastering Greed & Fear is must to materialize backtest results.
2. Automation can help in improving Execution.
3. Less is more, trade one but let it run.
4. Risk: Reward should be more then 1:3 to sustain.

@Definedge Team,

Dear Definedge Team,

Can you please explore the possibility of giving a download Buttons on Trading Journal & P&L Calendar

@Definedge Team, Is there any way to save drawings and markings on Charts, like Trading View ?

@Prasiddh-Shroff Yes, CARTRADE screened using Pre-Defined FIVE STAR STRATEGY only

Thanks for confirming, does following is a matter of concern for positional trade.

Pitfall
3 Years Profit CAGR is -13.99%
DII have reduced their stakes by 2.34% in the latest quarter (22.01% to 19.67%)

Accept the Pros & Cons of the trading system and stick to it. This will reward in long term.

Dear Definedge Team,

Can you please explore the possibility of plotting Drawing or Call out etc. on Indicators like RSI.

Below is the screenshot, with marking on chart but there is no option to plot on RSI indicator.

@Prashant Shah Sir, your feedback means Alot to me. Thank you so much.

@Prashant Shah Sir, Looking forward to your posts addressing the Query. Thank You So much for taking out time to reply. Really appreciate it.

I'll be Observing Charts with newly learnt concept of observing RSI with Trend and RSI Range Shift

Bullish Turtle Breakout, Follow through will be interesting.

Dear Prashant Sir,

I am driven by the principle that vibe attracts tribe and deeply value the collaboration and support shared among fellow traders. Fueled by a deep desire to help others, I aspire to contribute meaningfully to Definedge and the financial markets industry, aligning my passion with the company’s vision.

To prepare for this transition, I’ve started documenting my learning journey, showcasing skills by posting trade analyses and backtesting results. I’m actively networking, gaining practical experience, and leveraging transferable skills from my background, such as project management, data analysis, and problem-solving, which are highly relevant in finance.

I am also keen to explore opportunities to volunteer or intern with Definedge to deepen my understanding of the industry and contribute to its mission.

I would greatly appreciate insights into the certifications, skills, or steps I should focus on to establish myself in this domain. By asking this question publicly, I hope to not only learn but also inspire and guide others pursuing a similar transition. Any advice from experts and the Definedge team on crafting a structured roadmap would be invaluable!"

Best Regards,
Shobhhit Acharya

On Comparing manual Backtest test summary of Pullback and Breakout systems. It was found that there was no significant difference in the results. Hence, learnt that Focus should be on Execution. It is important, to materialize gains in actual.

Turle FT above D-Smart RL but within a tight range.

Turtle FT below D-Smart when RSI Avg. Sustain Below 50.

Range Breakout

Bullish Turtle above 78750 near Range Breakout. RSI is in OB Zone.

Observation: - Price Broke Upper Range & RSI in Overbought Zone.

Entry/Exit :- Entered on Turtle FT at 6756 SL placed at DBS 6719.

Bullish Turtle FT on Price Chart and Bullish Turtle FT on RS.

Looks interesting above 330 and SL 324.

Charts in Hindsight looks beautiful and easier to trade. However, trade after recent range breakout proves fruitful.

Looks interesting below 306

GOLDM above 78000 looks interesting.

Bullish Turtle FT above 317 looks interesting.

Bullish Turtle FT will be Interesting and looks like above 321 pick momentum.

View Negated

Bullish Turtle FT @ 322 will be interesting with 318.5 as SL.

Looks Interesting above 320 with an of SL 316

Looks interesting above 6182 with an initial SL of 6143

Looks Interesting above 6010

Bullish Turtle FT above 6030

Bullish Turtle Breakout at 76000 with active Vertical Counts

I have Back Tested Natural Gas past 1 Year Data both on 1-Min & Daily TF.

Number indicates, Trade Efficiency on 1-min TF increases when initiating trades in the direction of higher TF (Daily) Trend and Bullish/Bearish Trades when price in column of X or O respectively.

Bullish ABC above 317, DBS at 312.35

Bearish Turtle Breakout at 75900 with active Vertical Counts and Count Cluster at 75800

Bearish Turtle FT with active Vertical Counts and Count Cluster at 75800

Bearish Turtle Breakout @76450 & SL as D-Smart WL @76700

Turtle FT @ 91600, SL D-Smart WL @ 91170

@Shobhit Acharya

Turtle FT with an active Open count

Turtle Breakout both on Price and RS Chart.

Bearish Turtle FT below D-Smart @77100 looks Interesting.