@SANTANU-BEZ ok, so in strong up/down trend i.e. financials, reliance, IT - all up/down together - using vwap, otherwise supertrend as trailing SL. Is my understanding correct?

@SANTANU BEZ said in Short Straddle Selling – Patience Beats the Noise :(A Case Study from a Live Chart):

But in noisy markets (lots of wicks, sideways chop):

Switch to Supertrend-based SL → It filters out small whipsaws better than VWAP.
Supertrend smooths price action using ATR + trend direction.
This keeps you in the trade longer while avoiding fake VWAP breaks.

@SANTANU-BEZ -> Got it. But we can't identify beforehand if the market today is going to be choppy or not. How do you decide this? Let's say SL is hit for vwap the first time (No follow through came). Second time follow through also came but didn't survive. So, do you wait for the followthrough? If followthrough comes after SL is hit the first time, then, exit, otherwise make supertrend the dynamic SL to be honored.

@SANTANU-BEZ you have mentioned these 2 things:

VWAP Served as dynamic SL. Price staying below confirmed no reversal.
Exiting at first spike Wait for SL/invalidation to hit before acting
But in reality, price crossed above the VWAP in both the situations. Isn't this contradictory?

Hello Prashant Ji,

Difference between iNAV and trading price is very crucial to filter out high premium ETFs. Can you please introduce this difference in a column if we are running the ETF basket scan in momentify as well as in rzone (for scan and backtesting both). Also, introduce an option to filter out high premium stocks (in percentage).

Thanks.

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When I try to login to the momentify website, it is giving error.
Kindly fix the issue ASAP.

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@Brijesh-Bhatia ji, I have few queries:

1. In the trividh scanner, the scripts get displayed only when its Volume:OI > 5 ? If yes, why is it so? From what I have seen in the youtube videos is: Unusual volumes in stock and options - if both these are met then, the stock would appear in the trividh scanner.
2. How much volume is considered to be unusual volume? 100% above 20SMA? And on which timeframe - daily?
3. Also, after how much time does the trividh scanner run in the background?

Prashant Ji, in trading, profit targets and locking is of utmost importance.
Can you please add the following in momentum trading:

1. Intermediate target setting:
   Intermediate target: x%, stock to sell: a%
   Final target: y%, stock to sell: <whatever percentage of stock quantity is remaining>

2. Profit locking Percentage:
   SL above buy price: x%
   Trigger above buy price: y%, where y > x
   Eg., if I set x=10%, y=15%, if my stock moves by 15% or more, my SL will be set at 10%
   i.e, I will get atleast 10% profit while continue riding the momentum for more expected profit.

Prashant Ji, I have set the stocks limit as 5 while backtesting the momentum trading scanner.
However, the system is not honoring the same and adding more stocks while backtesting.
Refer screen recording link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JjCfiM-edht6HgS3UI39FkaEhUS5Hdvg/view?usp=sharing
@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts

Prashant Ji, requesting to kindly add an option to book partial profit in ultrascanner for intraday trades.

Atleast 2 pairs are needed:

1. 1st Target - a %
   Sell Quantity - x %
2. 2nd Target - b %
   Sell Quantity - y %

where, a, b -> Numbers with decimals as well as input (as profit booking can be at 1.5%, 2.1% etc)
x, y -> Numbers without any decimals as input

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts

Hello,
Kindly provide D Pivot indicator condition in PnF system builder in tradepoint and rzone.
I would request the following conditions in addition to whatever conditions the team would add:

1. price above all lines (same as D Pivot all clear bullish)
2. price above PBR lines
3. price below all lines (same as D Pivot all clear bearish)
4. price below PBR lines
   @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts

Prashant ji, can we get RS option in ultra scanner in the form of denominator, condition and box size (as box size for RS and entry conditions can be different).
This will enhance the automation process a lot.
Hopefully, we will get the same in upcoming super algo as well !!

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts FYI.

@RAJA BABU Attend offline conferences of Definedge and try to network and learn and then execute

Much needed in Zone terminal !!!

@Saju Raj Where did you get the response? Not in this forum?

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts any update on this?

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts any update on this?

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts any update on this?

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts any update on this?

For eg, see the price of ERIS in tradepoint v/s rzone after the market closes. This is discrepancy which needs to be fixed in rzone ASAP...!!!!

@Definedge Did you look into this issue? This is still not fixed !!

you can try using dsmart or mast cloud to trail.

Prashant Ji, can the team add radio button to exclude the following from momentify and momentum investing scanner:

1. 2% and 5% limit stocks
2. stocks at upper circuit

Also, I have one query for momentify: how are you handling the situation in which a stock should be exited on the rebalancing date as per the strategy but the stock is in lower circuit. In this case, the margin won't be available from that stock to buy new replaceable stock. Does the system again ask us to exit that stock the next day as well?

Hello, @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts , did you get a chance to look into this issue?

Prashant ji, it looks like the strategies - Str1, Str2 and Str3 - in momentum trading scanner are having OR operation.
Shouldn't they be AND operation as it provides us to check conditions on different time frames.

Eg., Str1 - DTB at 0.25% and Str2 - DTB at 1%
It can be seen that the result is OR operation of Str1 and Str2, rather it should be AND.

Also, can we get a FRESH button on lower timeframe, eg, on Str1, so that the condition satisfied in current trading session is honored, not the continuing one.

How can I create basket orders? Let's say I want to buy some equities A, B and C.
I want to put them in basket and execute the orders.
During all 4 sessions i.e. pre-market, market, post-market and AMO hours.
@@Definedge-Experts @Definedge

Any update on this?

@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts kindly resolve this issue for regular trading. You are offering margin for momentum investing from momentify portal, then, why not make it available for regular trading? Why these 2 different approaches?

Unlike other brokers, after selling already held equity as positional sell, margin doesn't show up immediately. Why?

I should be able to buy another equity with the same available margin.

Kindly resolve this at the earliest!!!!

Kindly update on this issue

In rzone, the "last traded price" is getting displayed instead of the closing price, after the market closes, which is wrong!!

However, tradepoint is showing the data correctly.

Kindly fix this issue at the earliest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See screenshot below:

when can we expect autotrade availability in web or mobile? @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts

@Definedge Not visible.

Kindly replace IIFLSEC with IIFLCAPS in nifty 750 group

When will it be available?

Can we have backtesting feature for d-score scanner?

Kindly check if you can have live streaming.

@Neha Pandey Any updated on the video??

feedback: can you color the segments of a stock tracjectory differently: let;s say a stock has turned from blue to green star, then, part of the tracjectory where it was blue should be shown blue and the part of the segment where it is green should be shown as green.

Do we have online attending option as well? If not, please consider.

Any updates here?

@@Definedge-Experts @Prashant-Shah

Can someone explain what do these options do:

With these buttons, only related stocks and their trajectory should be visible.
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Great tool. However, it becomes too concentrated for definedge all sectors making nothing visible clearly.
Can we have few buttons to display:

1. Stars / Circles
2. Green / Red / Default colored stars
3. Green / Red / Orange / Default colored names
   CC: @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts @Prashant-Shah

In the momentum investing scanner based on PnF, if I select 200 EMA,

1. it would be 200 days EMA or 200 columns EMA?
2. regarding RS, it would be column high price above 200-EMA?
3. Also, if the period is selected as 252, it implies 252 columns or 252 days?

@@Definedge-Experts @Prashant-Shah @Prashant-K kindly help clarify.

@Definedge

Can we have this indicator in rzone???

Hi @Definedge , any followup on this?

Hi @Definedge, any comments?

@@Definedge-Experts, any comments here?

@Ravi-Shinde, as taken from Google, XIRR stands for Extended Internal Rate of Return is a method used to calculate returns on investments where there are multiple transactions happening at different times.

@Ravi-Shinde, so here comes the role of XIRR instead of absolute returns for pyramids.

Kindly add CAGR for all the stocks in the table below in Rzone's backtesting:

@Definedge, kindly make available the TOI chart in RZone.

@@Definedge-Experts , any suggestion on this?

@Definedge, @@Definedge-Experts, any update on this?

@@Definedge-Experts @Definedge, any update on this?

It means when the buy condition is met multiple times, it takes a buy position the same number of times.
While on the sell side, once the first occurence of sell condition is met, sell all the pyramids.
@Definedge @@Definedge-Experts @Prashant-Shah

Couldn't find in the library section.

Hi Support Team, any update on this enhancement? Is it being taken up?
To further simplify the use case, High/low date can have 2 options -

1. same (means high-low of the brick is formed on the same date)
2. different (means high-low of the brick is formed on different dates)
   This feature is highly appreciated for system builder based trading.
   @Definedge @@Definedge-Experts
   Thanks!

There is no data for the following symbols, kindly update them with their new symbols.

Hi Support Team,

It is quite a missing thing in the tradepoint that high/low dates can't be added as a requirement to the system builder for renko.
You can have a facility to just add date and skip time if you want as shown in the red circle below. Really appreciate it if you could add it at the earliest.

Thanks!

Hello @Prashant-Shah ji, in system builder based renko trading, it is very difficult to formulate whether current brick i.e. brick 0, is completely formed or not on a timeframe of lets say 1 min. This creates a lot of confusion as sometimes the brick 0 is formed a long ago and the next brick is not getting formed due to not much change in the price strike. Kindly suggest how to achieve this?

For eg, we can write 1 and 2 and 3
What if I want to check that condition 3 doesn't occur, then I want to write something like: 1 and 2 and (not 3), but this doesn't work.
Kindly guide how to do this?

Buy/Sell arrow condition is available in RZone, but missing in Tradepoint. Kindly fix this issue at the earliest.

This group is having FINNIFTY options as well, why?
FINNIFTY should be removed from this group and its separate group - FINNIFTY Weekly Option Symbols - should be made.

Time before which user has to square-off to avoid any penalty?

@Neha-Pandey Can you please check as well on this query. If Definedge is not going to re-introduce the liquid ETFs group, kindly reply with all the ETFs that were there in that group.

@@Definedge-Experts @Definedge @Prashant-Shah Sir, please re-store the group. It is very useful group which gets rid of all the non-liquid ETFs.

Hello @@Definedge-Experts, @Prashant-Shah Ji,

I am trying to explore tradepoint where I want to do positional trading, for which I have few queries.

1. The daily/weekly/monthly timeframe (I am not talking about expiry here) is missing as shown below:
   

2. Even though exit time is shown as 15:30, however, when I click on the time, it shows me calendar dates in the dropdown box as shown below.
   Can someone please explain how to disable exit time/date for positional trading.
   

3. I see the scanner/auto-trade engine will work only if I have logged into the tradepoint terminal. This should not be the case.

Regards,
Harjap

As of now, I don't see any trading time specification. Let's say NIFTYBEES - It has high spikes in the start and end of the trading day.
To avoid this, I don't see any time specification in the back-test. Kindly provide some workaround or enhance the tool.
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